
06-06-2004, 11:41 AM
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I have watched this thead wih a lot if interest, as I love sex with men and with women. But the two are not the same or even at all interchangable!
The thread has changed from what I thought was a purely sexual question to a discussion about emotional relationships.
My deepest emotional relationships are with other women. I was married once and it wa a horrible experience for me, and yes, I know the biggest part of the problem was that he was a rat prick bastard, but I still bond emotionally with women far better than with men.
I have male friends, and one man in parrticular who is deeply ingrained into my life, emotionally and sexually, but I would be completely lost without Leigh.
Sexually, sex with other women so different as to make any comparison nearly worthless.
Other than the huge difference in the actual act of sex, the softness, the sense of exploration, the sense of sharing that is usually lacking for me in sex with men, there is an additional emotional bond that is FOR ME only present with another woman.
Maybe that is the definition of lesbianism?
But when I am not interested in emotion, when I only want the intensity of orgasm, the ovewhelming rush of physical pleasure, and nothing else, I find a man.
Maybe two.
At the same time.
BiSexually,
Wanda
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06-06-2004, 11:47 AM
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I totally disagree ....................... "and that's all I've got to say about that".
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06-06-2004, 09:20 PM
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That is a very strange thing to say about my posting. How do you disagree with MY life, and the things that are the parts of MY life?
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06-06-2004, 09:51 PM
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WW I am almost 100% positive he is referring to the original post in this thread.
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06-06-2004, 10:31 PM
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Wicked Wanda
I have to think you hit the key to the orginal post that I listed. We seek out the things that make us happy. But we have inner needs that we must share with someone endearingly close. Thank you for insight. 
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06-07-2004, 12:26 AM
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I think that the title is a bit of a red rag.
I wouldn't beat yourself up over this supposed flaw in the male psyche. The responses seem to suggest that the connection between heterosexuals is the most fundamental, it can demonstrate the essence of our existence. It's just not something that we talk about or need counselling over. It's not something we need to know what we feel about it.
When we need to know or analyse what we feel about things, then I agree that women are probably best placed to discuss the issue. Usually because most of the guys have buggered off to do something that interests them (doesn't embarass them).
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06-07-2004, 02:31 AM
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Re: Just a thought
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Originally posted by JAG2888
While spending a great deal of time counseling individuals, I found that while many get along great with the opposite sex, it is a very special bond that women have, the passion, heart and love that they seem to hold for one another (no not the girl in the office that drives you nuts) but the individual that always has the smile, listening ear, shoulder to hold the tears of pain, that it seems that no man really understands. It is a very special relationship. It is closer than sisters, and deeper than friends. It is something I have found to be very special and endearing of ladies. Including my soul mate, lover, friend and loving spouse. It, to me, is something so increible about women. Just a thought.
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To add my two cents, the kind of relationship you describe sounds exactly like the relationship I have with my sister and my mother....... yes it is a special kind of bond, but then my relationship with my lover is also a special and unique bond, and one of the things that's most exciting about that relationship is that it is so different from the one I have with my close family.......after all, why would I need that kind of bond from someone else when I have such a good one with my female relatives already?
May I also suggest that no-one can 'please' someone else, or 'make someone else happy' - it is YOU who makes you happy, and that's achieved by being true to yourself and being true to your desires.......if your desire is for a sexual relationship with another woman, then that is what will make you happy. On the other hand, for me, for example, having a happy, harmonious and tender relationship with a man (which I hope will result in our having children in a few years time) is what makes me happy.
We're all different, so it's very difficult to generalise the way you have.
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06-07-2004, 04:44 AM
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Just a slightly different take.
JAG has said that for her the tenderness and depth of emotion she finds
with another woman is the most intense relationship she knows.
She says nothing about what the relationships she had before were like.
If she was in the position a lot of girls face who have attempted relationships
with boys who have the sensitivity of a cross-cut saw, her emotional
direction is almost inevietable.
As Lou says, happiness is an internal thing, not something imposed from
outside.
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06-07-2004, 03:19 PM
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1) Never lump all women together. Heck never lump all of anything together. There will always be one damned thing that will set off your criteria. I know this becuase I obessess over trying to make things fit into ym own narrow view.
2) Being a woman does not automatically mean that you can automatically satisfy every woman out there. You would be surprised how many women can get into their 20's and never have masturbated or came on their own.
Besides there is much more than sex to a relationship. Even I will say that and every serious relationship I ahve ever had started out as a fuck buddy.
3) A lot of women I find always keep one good male friend around for emotional support much like guys do. If a woman is truly wise or lucky that man would be her husband.
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06-08-2004, 10:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Wanda
That is a very strange thing to say about my posting. How do you disagree with MY life, and the things that are the parts of MY life?
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As Lilith has pointed out Wanda ................... I wasn't refering to your Post. I always stick to the Original Subject. So Chill.........
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06-10-2004, 08:48 PM
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****freezes****
Oops...
Sorry hon.
WW
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06-15-2004, 11:08 AM
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sometimes i don't udnerstand men 
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