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Originally posted by Irish
curveyredhead---I didn't think that we should have been in VN ,
EITHER,but I swore to do what the Govt. told me to do.I was just
17,when I volentered,& in my youth,I thought that the Govt.wouldn't lie.It's a shame,how many lives were screwed up,
but I'm also shocked at how many people have the attitude of,
Hooray for me & fuck everybody else! Irish
P.S.When you enlist at 17,you take the bad with the good!

Irish,

I do not find any fault with your service! In fact I think anyone who was involved in the 'war' in VN (or any other conflict) deserves our respect and admiration. You (and those who served with you) were ask to do something that no one should be asked to do. My father was a helicopter door gunner in the Army. He was forced to kill a young man (barely more than a boy) who was shooting at the troops he was trying to pick up. I will never know how that feels, nor will I ever know why such a young man would take up a gun and tried to shoot others, what I do know is that when we ask others to put themselves into that position we can never give them back what they loose. And that to me is very sad!

PF,
I agree that the numbers do not lie. Politicians lie, entire governments lie, but the numbers all have faces that do not lie. You might be interested in the link on my forum about permenant human values.