Sadly I don't have either of those games. My favorite is Kill Dr. Lucky. I've been through three copies of that game. They came out with a "real" board game version of KDL this past year I wanted it for Christmas but didn't get it. If you asked me to name all the Cheapass games I have I couldn't. My wife got me a collection a few years ago and I have no clue what was included.

What other games do you have and play Gecko? I ask because I collect games. Last count I was pushing 300 different games varying from RPG, CCG, board games, and even quite a few tactical games like Advanced Squad Leader. Sadly I haven't played most of my games because I live in a small town and don't really have anyone to play with.