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Lilith 07-02-2007 06:53 PM

Libby's Sentence Commuted
 
Anyone surprised?

Anyone feel this was the right thing to do?

dicksbro 07-02-2007 07:14 PM

Well given all the crooks our previous president let off the hook ... nothing surprises me. :(

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

jseal 07-02-2007 07:49 PM

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Lilith 07-02-2007 07:50 PM

Two wrongs...


Back to Libby-


I know many thought he would be pardoned, do you think this will be seen in a more favorable light?

jseal 07-02-2007 07:56 PM

More favorable than what?

Aqua 07-02-2007 07:59 PM

Bush Sr. had his share as well, db... http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/bushgrants.htm

In both cases many (not all) of the pardons were for people that had been sentenced many years before that President was in office.

As far as W's treatment of Libby, I am not too surprised. His sentence was commuted because he has friends in high places. I am happy to see he was not pardoned. While he won't serve jail time, his rep is tarnished, he has a criminal record and he still has to pay the fine.

jseal 07-02-2007 08:02 PM

So would it be reasonable to infer from these precedents that this is not unusual? Perhaps not routine, but not unusual?

Aqua 07-02-2007 08:08 PM

I think it may be unusual in that it was a recent sentencing and was not a full pardon.

I also think that it is more favorable than a full pardon. I suppose as a compromise it works.

Maybe.

jseal 07-02-2007 08:09 PM

Time will tell.

scotzoidman 07-03-2007 01:07 AM

Given that this President has granted fewer pardons & commutations than any other in the past century, I do find it remarkable that he suddenly finds compassion in his heart when someone in the Old Boys' Club might do time in the big house. Seeing as how less than one third of the country supports him anymore, I guess he doesn't dare piss off what's left of his constitiuency...

osuche 07-03-2007 01:23 AM

Second term presidents sure are bold....

This just makes me sad. :(

dicksbro 07-03-2007 03:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by scotzoidman
Seeing as how less than one third of the country supports him anymore, ...


... which is much better than Congress. :(

lakritze 07-04-2007 10:26 AM

No surprise here.Scumbags stick together. I found amusing though,that the reports on Lewis Libby was broadcasted on NPR by a journalist by the name of Libby Lewis.

Wicked Wanda 07-04-2007 10:56 AM

I agree...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scotzoidman
Given that this President has granted fewer pardons & commutations than any other in the past century, I do find it remarkable that he suddenly finds compassion in his heart when someone in the Old Boys' Club might do time in the big house. Seeing as how less than one third of the country supports him anymore, I guess he doesn't dare piss off what's left of his constitiuency...


This pretty much sums up my feelings.

This is the same category as the VP supporting his gay daughter, and still spewing hate at the rest of us.

WW

Slow Grind 07-04-2007 11:03 AM

US national politicians suck
 
The US has become very partisan and polarized.

No doubt that this act by Bush smells; however some of the Clinton pardons equally stunk.

Basically I fear the many things can still be 'purchased' if one has the right connections in the US political arena.


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