Axe- Stereotyping does suck eh..just remember that its them with them problem not you.

Mrs L- Oooo that realllly pisses me off hun. Having kids of my own I always buckled mine down and pulled over if they got out. I see it alll the time and it makes me wanna knock on their window and beat the crap out of the dad and show him what it feels like to crash with no belt.

One thing that has been pissing me off as of late is motorcyclist. You know the ones...that have no rules to go by! Here I am, sitting in a 45 min queue and here comes Mr "I dont need to wait like everyone else" and takes the center. Grrrr, just because he CAN do it doesnt mean he should! All the others hafta wait, why cant they. If and when I get a bike, I'll wait with the rest or turn around for a different route.

Oh manz... sure is a very bitching day for all of you. Cool down manz! Look on the brigh side. Tomorrow is just another day... ;)

As far as motorcyclists go:"Judge not;lest yee be judged yourself!"In over 43yrs. of riding;I have found that there are jerks
in every lifestyle.Over the years;you learn not to judge all;by the
actions of one.You usually find that the person that rides the smartest;is the one that knows how much damage that pavement
or dirt does. Irish

most accedents between a car an a motorbike
is the falt of the car driver now before assumsuns
are made iam a car driver keep an extra eye out for the
motorbikes please

My bitch is that my gardens, and grass is out of control!! In Florida, the problem in the summer is getting things to stop growing, or at least let you catch up. It seems like I always have 5 things to do, and only enough time for 2 of them.

I'm sick of people asking if I'm "excited" to go into labor! Yeah I'm ready to bake a cake at the first sign of pain!? Only one woman asked "are you scared?" And a few who understand have asked just simply "you ready?" Yeah I can't wait to hold this little girl, but no I am not excited or thrilled to be on this side of labor, ask me in a month!

We've had two friends of the family crash on motorcycles in the past four days (one died, the other is in icu) so I agree, everyone on the road is responsible for their actions no matter what your driving/riding. I wish parents would put helmets on their kids here when riding with them though, because it's not law in Colorado. :mad:

I'm amazed to read that it's not law for cyclists to wear helmets. It's been a law here for years. They also have "on the spot" fines for anyone not wearing a helmet.

Legend---Like seatbelts;you hear Pro&Con stories.I;personally;
know of one person who died;BECAUSE of a helmet.I like seatbelts but hate the feeling of having a shoulderbelt on!One of
my daudhters;had a ProbeGT;and the other had an Eagle(Talon?);
both cars had seatbelts and shoulderbelts.I bought a seatbelt;at
an accessory store;and installed it in my car.When you're racing
motorcycles;it is mandatory;to wear a helmet!The solution should
be left to the operator;I think."Let those who ride decide."I think
that it should be a personal choice!Not one made by people with
no riding experience! Irish
P.S.Overrated-I have never heard anyone say that they want to
feel the wind in their hair!(NO-I am not bald.I have long blond hair.)

Dropped my bike badly once in the early 70's.

Broke my helmet, not my skull.

Argument won me.

My arguement for seatbelts; not just lifesavers, but facesavers as well... had a low-speed impact in the 80s (wife driving), neither adult belted, toddler in back in padded age-appropriate seat... wife needed stitches to un-slpit her lip, I needed surgery to return my nose back to near its original postion... child was unharmed, he did cry, I think his face may have bounced off the pad... we all buckle up in our family now...

"One who died" VS "How many who have lived"

What about the people in that have to scrape bits of a motorcyclists head off the road cause they wore no helmet!!!

Or the ER people who have to try to put the victims head back together after it has slid down the road at 100? k/h

Sorry Irish....i am a motorcyclist and i believe Australia has it right....compulsary helmets to all

Sharni---It's called free choice.You believe one thing and someone else believes something else!I;personally;don't believe
that someone else should tell someone what they should do.I
cringe;everytime;that I see someone on a bike;with shorts and
sneakers;but it's their decision to make.The person that died was just one that I know of;not a %/%.My belief is that nothing should be mandated.If someone slid down the road at 100?;with
out a helmet on;it's obvious that they were not the sharpest knife in the drawer;anyway. Irish
P.S.The views expressed are those of the thread responder and
having fought ;in the jungle to defend those views;should not be
infringed upon.

Ooh, I've unwittingly stirred up a hornet's nest, so it seems. I think for helmets and seatbelts, the pros far outweigh the cons - ie more people are saved because of them, than people who are killed.

Are we going to let a young child decide whether they need to wear a helmet or seatbelt?

My wife;told me;yrs. ago;that I was going to give myself an ulcer;
worrying about whether people did the safe thing or not.She told
me that from my years of racing and lifes experiences;that I hate
to see people make the same mistakes that I have made.As she
said;"People are going to do what they want;no matter what!"I'll
just do as she said and let people believe what they want.One
person;looks back;at you;from the mirror;and you have to be happy with the way that person believes!In other words;all of the
arguments;in the world;aren't going to change or solve anything!!
Irish