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PantyFanatic 04-30-2006 09:23 AM

I kind of like Bengali :D






<--- *thinks Lilith came up with those WAY too fast* :rolleyes:

campingboy 04-30-2006 09:42 AM

I see this as a protest song too.

On a side note, I find the US National Anthem to be very beautiful IF sung correctly. That is a big ‘if’. It is a very hard anthem, and I have heard more versions that are more painful to listen to then a pleasure. There is that one part where I’m almost tense waiting to see if the singer can reach the high notes clearly.

I was listening to a radio show that was talking about how the Spanish speaking population will displace the Afro-American population in both social economic and political standing within 20 years. One Political Science Professor thought that there will be a Spanish speaking President before there will be an Afro-American one.

Lilith 04-30-2006 09:47 AM

I believe that may be the case as well. I know that Hispanics are rapidly reaching the "majority minority." I also think the idea of a Hispanic American president being elected prior to an African American president may have something to do with the fact that many Hispanic Americans register as Republicans and many African Americans register as Democrats. Currently I view the Democrats as the more complacent party.

campingboy 04-30-2006 10:33 AM

Another fact is that many New Immigrants feel that it is a privilege to Vote, and do so. I'm not as convinced that the African American population turns out to vote in the same percentages.

The question of what to do with the ‘illegal Immigrants’ is a difficult one. Deport all of them? I’m not sure of the process of deporting some in the US, but I think it goes something like this – Immigration officer investigates case, arrests said person, person is held in jail, a court case is set, judge hears case, guilty person is deported to another country. Now multiply that by all the illegal immigrants and that is a lot of time and money. Is this the best use of Government money? Can it be justified to spend more money on deporting someone then what it spends on the education and health care of a legal American?

PantyFanatic 04-30-2006 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by campingboy
.... – Immigration officer investigates case, arrests said person, person is held in jail, a court case is set, judge hears case, guilty person is deported to another country. Now multiply that by all the illegal immigrants and that is a lot of time and money. Is this the best use of Government money? Can it be justified to spend more money on deporting someone then what it spends on the education and health care of a legal American?

GOOD point.

osuche 04-30-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PantyFanatic
I kind of like Bengali :D



I'll have to tell my Bengali husband to file his tax forms in his native tongue. :D

Now *that* will be the day! :D

I agree about the use of govt resources...we can use $$ to put illegal immigrants in jail and deport them, or to help them become productive citizens. Which do I prefer??? I suspect the choice is obvious.

jseal 04-30-2006 11:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by osuche
...I agree about the use of govt resources...we can use $$ to put illegal immigrants in jail and deport them, or to help them become productive citizens. Which do I prefer??? I suspect the choice is obvious.


Yes indeed!

Fangtasia 04-30-2006 05:24 PM

I'm in the deport them catergory...but then thats me...Illegal is illegal

The jobs they take and the 'help' they require to become legal productive citizens would cost more than sending em home in a canoe

Neige 04-30-2006 10:10 PM

Canada has versions of its national anthem in the two official languages, French and English (and was, in fact, first written in French). The two versions do not say the exact same things, as seems to be the case with the Spanish and English versions of the American national anthem.

(Official English version)
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

(Translation of the French version)
O Canada! Land of our forefathers
Thy brow is wreathed with a glorious garland of flowers.
As in thy arm ready to wield the sword,
So also is it ready to carry the cross.
Thy history is an epic of the most brilliant exploits.
Thy valour steeped in faith
Will protect our homes and our rights
Will protect our homes and our rights.

More info on the Canadian national anthem here.

rabbit 04-30-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by osuche
"I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English," Bush said.



What do you think?



Goddamn right!

Booger 04-30-2006 11:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alassë
I'm in the deport them catergory...but then thats me...Illegal is illegal

The jobs they take and the 'help' they require to become legal productive citizens would cost more than sending em home in a canoe


The only problem is most aren't taking jobs form anyone in reality here in the US. Most are doing jobs no one else would do for the pay they get. A lot of them work with forged paper which it would be easy for the goverment to track down if they realy wanted to. Why don't they for two reasons one they have taxes and S.S. taken out of their check and don't file taxes so the goverment gets to keep all the money. The other eason if they weren't here willing to work for the low pay it everyone would end up paying in the end. I know in another thread there was a coment made about picking apples well if they were picking them the farmers would have to pay some one twice what they are now to get them picked then when you went to the store to buy one you would end up paying more in the end.

Fangtasia 04-30-2006 11:31 PM

Thats your opinion hun...

Mine is still the same...come in by the right channels and your welcome...come in illegally and ya can get ya ass back to where ya came from cause i'm not interested...never will be and i aint interested in ya sob story either

Booger 04-30-2006 11:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit
Originally Posted by osuche
"I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English," Bush said.



What do you think?


Goddamn right!


First off Mr. Rabbit you and Mr. Bush have to learn Engklish isn't the US's offical language WE DON"T HAVE ONE. Second the US is a melting pot I'd be willing to bet that the first generations of your family didn't speak english either unless all you decsendents were from an english speaking country.

Fangtasia 04-30-2006 11:40 PM

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The United States does not have an official language; nevertheless, American English (referred to in the US as simply English) is the language used for legislation, regulations, executive orders, treaties, federal court rulings, and all other official pronouncements. Additionally, one must demonstrate an ability to read, write, and speak English to become a naturalized citizen. Many individual states and territories have also adopted English as their official language:

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming

Several states and territories are officially bilingual:

Louisiana (English and French),
New Mexico (English and Spanish),
Hawaii (Hawaiian English and Hawaiian),
Puerto Rico (Spanish and English),
Guam (Chamorro and English),
American Samoa (Samoan and English);
And one is officially trilingual:

Northern Mariana Islands (English, Chamorro, and Carolinian).


Taken from Wikipedia

LixyChick 05-01-2006 04:51 AM

I've always liked the Jimi Hendrix version of the anthem...and never met a person who considered it inappropriate. I might just have to get out more...lol!

As to the Spanish version? I agree that it's more of a protest song than a tribute since the lyrics have been changed. It's not like the words can't be translated exactly so they changed them to the next best translatable (word?...is now!) word.

Hey! It's early here...and I know what I mean^^^^^


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