Aussies join the lie fest

[Grumble]

Australian Prime Minister John Howard today announced a federal election on 9th October.

So we have an election campaign of 6 weeks to put up with.

It will be a very close election from all accounts.

[Sharni]

Well we knew that was coming....no suprise there at all

[jseal]

When you vote, pause a moment and think of all those who cannot, and of those who died so that you can.

[Belial]

When you vote, pause a moment and think...of those who died so that you can.

Umm..like who?

[jseal]

Belial,

Please refer to any literate history of the 20th Century. You may find it enlightening, or at the very least, entertaining.

[Catch22]

Not to forget the many civil wars because Kings did things without much care what the people wanted. I know if a certain Germany guy had got his way I would not be here. I would have been in the oven.

[Belial]

Belial,

Please refer to any literate history of the 20th Century. You may find it enlightening, or at the very least, entertaining.

Can you suggest a reference for the defence of Australian democracy with human life?

[jseal]

Yes. Study the Second World War - Pacific Theatre.

For further reading, permit me to suggest a review of the WWI Galipoli Campaign; the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force comprised five divisions: the British regular 29th Division; the Royal Naval Division; the Australian & New Zealand Army Corps of two divisions (the 1st Australian Division commanded by Major General Bridges, and the New Zealand & Australian Division commanded by Major General Gedley); and a French division of the Corps Expeditionnaire d'Orient.

The Australian & New Zealand Army Corps on Gallipoli was made up of Australians and New Zealanders plus men of at least eight other countries (Britain, Ceylon, India, Nepal, Egypt, Russia and Poland).

LIST OF ANZAC UNITS:

1st ANZAC CORPS
Corps Headquarters svith Signal Company (125)
Ceylon Planters' Rifle Corps (150)
Zion Mule Corps (245)
Indian Mule Cart Transport (230)
Beach Parties (280)
Fatigue Parties (400)
1St Australian Casualty Clearing Station (63)
1st Australian Depot Unit of Supply (14)
Corps Troops:
[arrived mid May to early June]
2nd Australian Light Horse Brigade:
5th Regiment (Qld)
6th Regiment (NSW)
7th Regiment (NSW)
3rd Australian Liglst Horse Brigade:
8th Regiment (Vic)
9th Regiment (Vic & SA)
10th Regiment (WA)

1ST AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
[landing, 25 April 1915]
Division Headquarters (210)
Artillery:
1st Field Arrillery Brigade (NSW)
[landing, Cape Helles]
1st, 2nd, 3rd Batteries
2nd Field Artillery Brigade (Vic) (235):
4th, 5th Batteries
2nd Bde Ammunition Column
6th Battery [at Cape Helles]
3rd Field Artillery Brigade (163):
7th (QId), 8th (WA), 9th (Tas) Batteries
3rd Bde Ammunition Column
Infantry (battalion approx. 970 at strength):
1st Australian Infantry Brigade:
1st Battalion (NSW)
2nd Battalion (NSW)
3rd Battalion (NSW)
4th Battalion (NSW)
2nd Australian Infantry Brigade:
5th Battalion (Vic)
6th Battalion (Vic)
7th Battalion (Vic)
8th Battalion (Vic)
3rd Australian Infantry Brigade:
9th Battalion (Qld)
10th Battalion (SA)
11th Battalion (WA)
12th Battalion (SA, WA & Tas)
Divisional Troops:
4th Light Horse Regiment (Vic)
[arrived mid May]
Field Engineers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Pd Coys (each 160)
Field Ambulances, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Fd Amb (each 115)
Divisional Supply Train (less Transport Section) (155)

NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIAN (NZ & A) DIVISION
[Landing, 25 April 1915]
Division Headquarters (155)
Artillery:
New Zealand Field Artillery Brigade Headquarters (30)
No.1 & No.2 Batteries NZ PA (140)
Howitrer Bty & Ammunition Column (98)
Infantry:
New Zealand Infantry Brigade:
(each approx. 937)
Auckiand Battalion
Canterbury Battalion
Otago Battalion
Wellington Battalion
New Zealand Moanted Rifle Brigade:
Aucland Mounted Rifles
Canterbury Mounted Rifles
Wellington Mounted Rifles
4th Australian Infantry Brigade:
(each approx. 960)
13th Battalion (NSW)
14th Battalion (Vic)
15th Battalion (Qld & Tas)
16th Battalion (SA & WA)
1st Australian Light Horse Brigade:
[arrived mid May]
1st Regiment (NSW)
2nd Regiment (Qld)
3rd Regiment (SA & Tas)
29th Indian Infantry Brigade:
14th Sikhs
1st/5th Gurkha Rifles
lst/6th Gurkha Rifles
2nd/10th Gurkha Rifles
Divisional Troops:
Field Engineers, NZ Fd Coy (145)
Field Ambulance, NZ Fd Amb (125)
4th Aust Fd Amb (190)
NZ and Aust. Division Supply Train (83)

2nd AUSTIIALIAN DIVISION
[arrived end August to early September] Division Headquarters
5th Australian Infantry Brigade:
17th Battalion (NSW)
18th Battalion (NSW)
19th Battalion (NSW)
20th Battalion (NSW)
6th Australian Infantry Brigade:
21st Battalion (Vic)
22nd Battalion (Vic)
23rd Battalion (Vic)
24th Battalion (Vic)
7th Australian Infantry Brigade:
25th Battalion (Qld)
26th Battalion (Qld & Tas)
27th Battalion (SA)
28th Battalion (WA)
4th Australian Light Horse Brigade:
11th Regiment
(Qld & SA)
12th Regiment (NSW)

Divisional Troops:
13th Light Horse Regiment (Vic)
Australian Army Nursing Service (AANS) and Hospital Ships,
Anxac Cove and Lemnos Island. Nurses served on the hospital ships and at the 3rd Australian General Hospital on Lemnos. 25 nurses sailed with the 1st Convoy, 126 nurses with the 2nd Convoy etc. Doctors served as officers in the Field Ambulance units and as medical officers in each battalion.

I trust this will prove useful.

[PantyFanatic]

.......
So we have an election campaign of 6 weeks to put up with.
......
That must be what makes Americans tough. :madfire: Anybody can hold their breath for a crummy six weeks while the bullshit stacks up. We’re taught to endure the privation of truth for at least a complete solar revolution on a quad-annual schedule. Any pansy-ass can tolerate one quick stab of less than two moon phases immersed in fabrication, propaganda and mass hysteria. :box:

That won’t take enough out of the pockets of the manipulators to even be noted. :boink: Your media doesn’t get diverted from reporting fact and ignoring reality to ever become anything but armature spin artists. Your economy will never benefit from artificial inflation and your people will never grasp at the hopes of the carrot of honest change. How do you ever expect to become a competitor of global exploitation?




God, I love you people. :x:

[Catch22]

Can you suggest a reference for the defence of Australian democracy with human life?

Belial my father was in a little thing called World War 2. Australia was left high and dry and if not for a few brave folks you would not be here or you would be a Belialsan instead.

[Catch22]

Yes. Study the Second World War - Pacific Theatre.

For further reading, permit me to suggest a review of the WWI Galipoli Campaign; the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force comprised five divisions: the British regular 29th Division; the Royal Naval Division; the Australian & New Zealand Army Corps of two divisions (the 1st Australian Division commanded by Major General Bridges, and the New Zealand & Australian Division commanded by Major General Gedley); and a French division of the Corps Expeditionnaire d'Orient.

The Australian & New Zealand Army Corps on Gallipoli was made up of Australians and New Zealanders plus men of at least eight other countries (Britain, Ceylon, India, Nepal, Egypt, Russia and Poland).

LIST OF ANZAC UNITS:

1st ANZAC CORPS
Corps Headquarters svith Signal Company (125)
Ceylon Planters' Rifle Corps (150)
Zion Mule Corps (245)
Indian Mule Cart Transport (230)
Beach Parties (280)
Fatigue Parties (400)
1St Australian Casualty Clearing Station (63)
1st Australian Depot Unit of Supply (14)
Corps Troops:
[arrived mid May to early June]
2nd Australian Light Horse Brigade:
5th Regiment (Qld)
6th Regiment (NSW)
7th Regiment (NSW)
3rd Australian Liglst Horse Brigade:
8th Regiment (Vic)
9th Regiment (Vic & SA)
10th Regiment (WA)

1ST AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
[landing, 25 April 1915]
Division Headquarters (210)
Artillery:
1st Field Arrillery Brigade (NSW)
[landing, Cape Helles]
1st, 2nd, 3rd Batteries
2nd Field Artillery Brigade (Vic) (235):
4th, 5th Batteries
2nd Bde Ammunition Column
6th Battery [at Cape Helles]
3rd Field Artillery Brigade (163):
7th (QId), 8th (WA), 9th (Tas) Batteries
3rd Bde Ammunition Column
Infantry (battalion approx. 970 at strength):
1st Australian Infantry Brigade:
1st Battalion (NSW)
2nd Battalion (NSW)
3rd Battalion (NSW)
4th Battalion (NSW)
2nd Australian Infantry Brigade:
5th Battalion (Vic)
6th Battalion (Vic)
7th Battalion (Vic)
8th Battalion (Vic)
3rd Australian Infantry Brigade:
9th Battalion (Qld)
10th Battalion (SA)
11th Battalion (WA)
12th Battalion (SA, WA & Tas)
Divisional Troops:
4th Light Horse Regiment (Vic)
[arrived mid May]
Field Engineers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Pd Coys (each 160)
Field Ambulances, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Fd Amb (each 115)
Divisional Supply Train (less Transport Section) (155)

NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIAN (NZ & A) DIVISION
[Landing, 25 April 1915]
Division Headquarters (155)
Artillery:
New Zealand Field Artillery Brigade Headquarters (30)
No.1 & No.2 Batteries NZ PA (140)
Howitrer Bty & Ammunition Column (98)
Infantry:
New Zealand Infantry Brigade:
(each approx. 937)
Auckiand Battalion
Canterbury Battalion
Otago Battalion
Wellington Battalion
New Zealand Moanted Rifle Brigade:
Aucland Mounted Rifles
Canterbury Mounted Rifles
Wellington Mounted Rifles
4th Australian Infantry Brigade:
(each approx. 960)
13th Battalion (NSW)
14th Battalion (Vic)
15th Battalion (Qld & Tas)
16th Battalion (SA & WA)
1st Australian Light Horse Brigade:
[arrived mid May]
1st Regiment (NSW)
2nd Regiment (Qld)
3rd Regiment (SA & Tas)
29th Indian Infantry Brigade:
14th Sikhs
1st/5th Gurkha Rifles
lst/6th Gurkha Rifles
2nd/10th Gurkha Rifles
Divisional Troops:
Field Engineers, NZ Fd Coy (145)
Field Ambulance, NZ Fd Amb (125)
4th Aust Fd Amb (190)
NZ and Aust. Division Supply Train (83)

2nd AUSTIIALIAN DIVISION
[arrived end August to early September] Division Headquarters
5th Australian Infantry Brigade:
17th Battalion (NSW)
18th Battalion (NSW)
19th Battalion (NSW)
20th Battalion (NSW)
6th Australian Infantry Brigade:
21st Battalion (Vic)
22nd Battalion (Vic)
23rd Battalion (Vic)
24th Battalion (Vic)
7th Australian Infantry Brigade:
25th Battalion (Qld)
26th Battalion (Qld & Tas)
27th Battalion (SA)
28th Battalion (WA)
4th Australian Light Horse Brigade:
11th Regiment
(Qld & SA)
12th Regiment (NSW)

Divisional Troops:
13th Light Horse Regiment (Vic)
Australian Army Nursing Service (AANS) and Hospital Ships,
Anxac Cove and Lemnos Island. Nurses served on the hospital ships and at the 3rd Australian General Hospital on Lemnos. 25 nurses sailed with the 1st Convoy, 126 nurses with the 2nd Convoy etc. Doctors served as officers in the Field Ambulance units and as medical officers in each battalion.

I trust this will prove useful.
ANZAC Cove is a place I would like to see.

[jseal]

Catch22,

You never know - perhaps someday. Until then,

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/galli-poli/landing-anzac.htm

[Belial]

Belial my father was in a little thing called World War 2. Australia was left high and dry and if not for a few brave folks you would not be here or you would be a Belialsan instead.

I am well aware of the raids conducted on northern Australia.

Did Japan have designs on Australia as an entire continent?

Besides, Japan has had democracy in some form for quite a while now. Even if I was a "Belialsan" - which is no certainty even if Australia had not resisted in the Pacific theater as the atom bombs were what convinced Japan to surrender - I'd still be voting.

[Belial]

I'm well aware of the ANZAC involvement in WW1. It's very difficult to be educated in Australia and not be told wonderful tales of the "ANZAC spirit".

Now, maybe I'm naive, but I'm pretty sure there was no fighting anywhere near Australia in WW1, nor any fighting anywhere that threatened Australia's sovreignity.

Yes. Study the Second World War - Pacific Theatre.

For further reading, permit me to suggest a review of the WWI Galipoli Campaign; the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force comprised five divisions: the British regular 29th Division; the Royal Naval Division; the Australian & New Zealand Army Corps of two divisions (the 1st Australian Division commanded by Major General Bridges, and the New Zealand & Australian Division commanded by Major General Gedley); and a French division of the Corps Expeditionnaire d'Orient.

The Australian & New Zealand Army Corps on Gallipoli was made up of Australians and New Zealanders plus men of at least eight other countries (Britain, Ceylon, India, Nepal, Egypt, Russia and Poland).

LIST OF ANZAC UNITS:

1st ANZAC CORPS
Corps Headquarters svith Signal Company (125)
Ceylon Planters' Rifle Corps (150)
Zion Mule Corps (245)
Indian Mule Cart Transport (230)
Beach Parties (280)
Fatigue Parties (400)
1St Australian Casualty Clearing Station (63)
1st Australian Depot Unit of Supply (14)
Corps Troops:
[arrived mid May to early June]
2nd Australian Light Horse Brigade:
5th Regiment (Qld)
6th Regiment (NSW)
7th Regiment (NSW)
3rd Australian Liglst Horse Brigade:
8th Regiment (Vic)
9th Regiment (Vic & SA)
10th Regiment (WA)

1ST AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
[landing, 25 April 1915]
Division Headquarters (210)
Artillery:
1st Field Arrillery Brigade (NSW)
[landing, Cape Helles]
1st, 2nd, 3rd Batteries
2nd Field Artillery Brigade (Vic) (235):
4th, 5th Batteries
2nd Bde Ammunition Column
6th Battery [at Cape Helles]
3rd Field Artillery Brigade (163):
7th (QId), 8th (WA), 9th (Tas) Batteries
3rd Bde Ammunition Column
Infantry (battalion approx. 970 at strength):
1st Australian Infantry Brigade:
1st Battalion (NSW)
2nd Battalion (NSW)
3rd Battalion (NSW)
4th Battalion (NSW)
2nd Australian Infantry Brigade:
5th Battalion (Vic)
6th Battalion (Vic)
7th Battalion (Vic)
8th Battalion (Vic)
3rd Australian Infantry Brigade:
9th Battalion (Qld)
10th Battalion (SA)
11th Battalion (WA)
12th Battalion (SA, WA & Tas)
Divisional Troops:
4th Light Horse Regiment (Vic)
[arrived mid May]
Field Engineers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Pd Coys (each 160)
Field Ambulances, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Fd Amb (each 115)
Divisional Supply Train (less Transport Section) (155)

NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIAN (NZ & A) DIVISION
[Landing, 25 April 1915]
Division Headquarters (155)
Artillery:
New Zealand Field Artillery Brigade Headquarters (30)
No.1 & No.2 Batteries NZ PA (140)
Howitrer Bty & Ammunition Column (98)
Infantry:
New Zealand Infantry Brigade:
(each approx. 937)
Auckiand Battalion
Canterbury Battalion
Otago Battalion
Wellington Battalion
New Zealand Moanted Rifle Brigade:
Aucland Mounted Rifles
Canterbury Mounted Rifles
Wellington Mounted Rifles
4th Australian Infantry Brigade:
(each approx. 960)
13th Battalion (NSW)
14th Battalion (Vic)
15th Battalion (Qld & Tas)
16th Battalion (SA & WA)
1st Australian Light Horse Brigade:
[arrived mid May]
1st Regiment (NSW)
2nd Regiment (Qld)
3rd Regiment (SA & Tas)
29th Indian Infantry Brigade:
14th Sikhs
1st/5th Gurkha Rifles
lst/6th Gurkha Rifles
2nd/10th Gurkha Rifles
Divisional Troops:
Field Engineers, NZ Fd Coy (145)
Field Ambulance, NZ Fd Amb (125)
4th Aust Fd Amb (190)
NZ and Aust. Division Supply Train (83)

2nd AUSTIIALIAN DIVISION
[arrived end August to early September] Division Headquarters
5th Australian Infantry Brigade:
17th Battalion (NSW)
18th Battalion (NSW)
19th Battalion (NSW)
20th Battalion (NSW)
6th Australian Infantry Brigade:
21st Battalion (Vic)
22nd Battalion (Vic)
23rd Battalion (Vic)
24th Battalion (Vic)
7th Australian Infantry Brigade:
25th Battalion (Qld)
26th Battalion (Qld & Tas)
27th Battalion (SA)
28th Battalion (WA)
4th Australian Light Horse Brigade:
11th Regiment
(Qld & SA)
12th Regiment (NSW)

Divisional Troops:
13th Light Horse Regiment (Vic)
Australian Army Nursing Service (AANS) and Hospital Ships,
Anxac Cove and Lemnos Island. Nurses served on the hospital ships and at the 3rd Australian General Hospital on Lemnos. 25 nurses sailed with the 1st Convoy, 126 nurses with the 2nd Convoy etc. Doctors served as officers in the Field Ambulance units and as medical officers in each battalion.

I trust this will prove useful.

[Catch22]

I am well aware of the raids conducted on northern Australia.

Did Japan have designs on Australia as an entire continent?

Besides, Japan has had democracy in some form for quite a while now. Even if I was a "Belialsan" - which is no certainty even if Australia had not resisted in the Pacific theater as the atom bombs were what convinced Japan to surrender - I'd still be voting.

Belial my fathr was in the forces that took the Jap South Pac HQ. There they found boxes of Jap made Australian money to be used after they took us over. Further they did not give rights to areas they took. We would have been used as a slave labour force. My mothers first hubby was killed in a death march. Jap was controlled by the army with a God King. If Australia had of been taken the US would have taken longer to get close enough to drop the bombs on Jap. The Marine landings in the Pacific were all launched from Australia.

[Catch22]

I'm well aware of the ANZAC involvement in WW1. It's very difficult to be educated in Australia and not be told wonderful tales of the "ANZAC spirit".

Now, maybe I'm naive, but I'm pretty sure there was no fighting anywhere near Australia in WW1, nor any fighting anywhere that threatened Australia's sovreignity.

Indeed there was fighting near us in ww1 Papua was a German colony taken by Australia. There was naval fighting as well. A German light crusier (Emden) was sunk off WA.

[scotzoidman]

I don't even have to be an Aussie to understand Oz's strategiac importance during WWII...my daddy was in the Pacific theatre during that conflict, & while as far as I know never heard a shot fired in anger, he did bring back currency as souveniers from all around the Rim...I think I still have a sixpence with Geo VI on the face....

[Lilith]

Yeah they teach it in the basic World History course here.

[Belial]

I seem to have gone off half-cocked. Sorry. Guess it's my irreverent streak, as well as my ignorance.

[Grumble]

Umm..like who?


Milne, George
Number: WX11507
Rank: Private [Pte]
Unit: 2/43 INF BN
Service: Army
Conflict: 1939-1945
Date of Death: 02/10/1943
Place of Death: New Guinea
Cause of Death: Killed In Action
Memorial Panel: 62
Cemetery or Memorial Details:
Next Of Kin:
Notes:
Source: AWM147 Roll of Honour cards, 1939-1945 War, 2nd AIF (Australian Imperial Force) and CMF (Citizen Military Force)

A distant relation of mine, my grandfather was George Milne. This George was born in the linage of one of his uncles.

[Catch22]

First World War

4 Aug 1914 - 11 Nov 1918
416,809 Personnel enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force (including the Australian Flying Corps)
331,781 of these people served overseas. (RAN figures are not available)
The following publication is the source of the statistics quoted here.

Statistics of the Military Effort of the British Empire During the
Great War, 1914 - 1920, London, The War Office. ISBN 0 948130 14 8

Pages 759 - 770 refer to the Australian Involvement in this War.

EMBARKATION OF AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE FROM AUSTRALIA BY ARMS

Unit Total Strength
Infantry 210,981
Machine Guns 4,476
Tunnellers 3,970
Artillery 23,387
Australian Army Medical Corps 12,945
Australian Army Service Corps 9,735
Engineers 9,950
Light Horse 30,365
Veterinary 378
Australian Flying Corps 2,275
Wireless 434
Cyclists 570
Trench Mortars 1,218
Chaplains 386
Transport Officers 531
Australian Army Nursing Service 2,054
General Reinforcements 15,071
Miscellanious ARMS returned to Australia 2,555
-------
Total Forces Overseas all theatres of War 331,781

TOTAL CASUALTIES OF THE AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE

Killed in Action Died of Wounds
Officers 1,907 Officers 679
Other Ranks 37,832 Other Ranks 12,661

Died of Disease Died of Gas Poisoning
Officers 128 Officers 17
Other Ranks 3,791 Other Ranks 308

Died of Other Causes Total Deaths
Officers 95 Officers 2,826
Other Ranks 714 Other Ranks 55,306
---
Casualties that Survived
Wounded In Action Gassed
Officers 5,721 Officers 583
Other Ranks 129,963 Other Ranks 15,904

Prisoners Of War
Officers 170
Other Ranks 3,887
---
Total Battle Casualties including Deaths
Officers 9,300
Other Ranks 205,060
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Total All Ranks 214,360

Second World War

3 Sep 1939 - VE Day on 8 May 1945 and VJ Day on 15 Aug 1945

Number of People Enlisted or Engaged

Australian Military Forces (AMF) (AIF and Militia)
Men 691,400
Women 35,800

Royal Australian Navy (RAN)
Men 45,800
Women 3,100

Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)
Men 189,700
Women 27,200

TOTAL CASUALTIES OF THE AUSTRALIAN FORCES

Deaths
AMF 26,097
RAN 2,208
RAAF 11,061
Total 39,366

Wounded In Action
All Services 66,553

Prisoners Of War
By Germany 8,184 - 265 died while captive
By Japan 22,376 - 8,031 died while captive

Total Battle Casualties including Deaths
All Services 136,479

[Grumble]

Of the 27,200 women in the RAAF in WW2, one was Betty Joy Read, my mother, who was a Wireless Telegraphist.

My father Kenneth Alexander Milne was a marine engineer in the merchant navy who was involved in coastal transport around the Australian coast.

He told me once that he had been in convoys where ships were sunk by either German or Japanese submarines and he had seen a torpedo miss the stern of his ship by about 30 feet.

He never spoke much of it.

When I go to vote, I think of those who gave their lives so that I could and cherish the privelige of being able do so. Those that do not vote through indifference have lost sight of all the lives that have been given so they have the the right to vote.

[dicksbro]

I think I join with most American's in saluting the brave soldiers of Australia who have given so much in the cause of freedom.

Now ... about the election ...

"this to shall pass." :D

[Belial]

I get the point.

I have always been well aware that Australians were involved in WW1 and 2. What I had disputed (notice the past tense) was that it had been necessary to defend democracy in Australia. I'm still not certain that we ever would have had we not felt some sort of obligation to the Brits, but then again I'll probably be wrong about that too. I have had relatives involved in both wars but I don't feel the details are relevant, suffice to say that none of it makes me feel much different regarding voting. I'll vote, but I'm not going to hum The Last Post with a tear in my eye while doing it. Sorry.

[jseal]

Belial,

If what you're offering is a half loaf, I'll take it - with thanks.

'Nuf said.

[Catch22]

So far it has been all 'Lier, lier. Pants on fire.' What bliss.. not.

[Grumble]

there is a joke about politicians

How can you tell when a politician is lying?

A: his/her mouth moves

:D bloody trouble is it is not too far wrong :(

[Catch22]

Today the Govt has found cash to spend on health services. A few weeks ago there was no more that could be done for health. :hair:

[Grumble]

Read this little gem in "Letters to the Editor" in the Hobart Mercury

Sir,

I wish people would stop making political jokes at election time.
Too many of them get elected.


That one made my day :)

[jseal]

Grumble,

Good one!

[longsword]

I'm well aware of the ANZAC involvement in WW1. It's very difficult to be educated in Australia and not be told wonderful tales of the "ANZAC spirit".

Now, maybe I'm naive, but I'm pretty sure there was no fighting anywhere near Australia in WW1, nor any fighting anywhere that threatened Australia's sovreignity.

Its true there was no actual troop battles, near Australia in WW1 but there was plenty going on just off the coast. German raiders were a constant threat mining sealanes and attacking supply ships trying to cut off supplies, both to the domestic market and those being sent overseas.

Case in point, HMAS Sydney smashing the crap out of Raider Emden off the Cocos Is. which is not that far from the mainland...